Descender Joins
Letters with tails seem to leave the line, then have to come back to it. The trick is that every tail loop crosses the baseline and the exit starts there.
By Maya Chen, lettering designer and type educator · Checked by Jordan Hale · · How we review content
Example joins
- ga
- ge
- ji
- ye
- ze
- qu
- pa
- pe
- fa
- fi
Typeface: Playwrite US Trad (traditional school cursive).
Tails that have to come home
A descender letter spends half its life below the baseline. That is where the beginner’s problem begins: after the tail, where does the pen go? If the answer is “wherever it ends up”, the next letter starts too low, too far to the left, or both, and a word like “page” collapses.
The rule is simple. The tail loop always passes back through the baseline, and the exit begins right at that crossing. From there on the join behaves like any baseline join, an undercurve or overcurve rising to the right. Learn this crossing point and the seven letters in this page share one idea.
The seven descender letters
| Letter | Shape of the tail | Exit | Needs attention |
|---|---|---|---|
| g | Straight stem down, loop to the left | Overcurve from the baseline crossing | Closing the loop at the baseline, not below it |
| j | Slant down from the i-like start, loop left | Overcurve rising into the next letter | Dot comes after the word |
| y | Hump, down-stroke, narrow loop | Overcurve rising to the midline | Loop must not hook into the next letter |
| z | Hump, slant, small turn, then a loop below | Overcurve from the baseline | Some modern models drop the loop |
| q | Oval, straight tail, loop forward (right) | Undercurve toward a u | Loop turns right, unlike g |
| p | Stem down, retraced or slim loop, bowl on the right | Undercurve from the baseline | Bowl must close at the stem |
| f | Tall loop above, stem through, loop below swinging right | Undercurve from baseline | Both loops, crossing at the baseline |
This matches the letter pages: g, j, y, z, q, p and f.
The crossing point
Draw a straight line across the page for the baseline. Write a g, and look where the stem crosses the lower loop. If the crossing is on the line, the exit lines up with the baseline and the next letter starts in its usual place. If it is below, the exit is too low; if above, the loop is too small.
Two checks tell you right away:
- Is the crossing at the baseline? Hold the page up and check the line.
- Is the exit rising? The stroke after the crossing should curve up and to the right, not travel flat.
Pairs to practise
g + vowels. “ga”, “ge”, “gi”, “go”, “gu”. The overcurve exit rises into a, o and similar letters, and you start the next letter at its normal place. In “ga” the exit climbs straight into the oval.
j and y + letters. “ja”, “je”, “ju”, “ya”, “ye”, “yo”. After y the exit is an overcurve that rises toward the midline, which is natural for letters like e and o but needs a little care before a, where the exit must curl back into the oval. A common failing is a tail that hooks left under the next letter and links the two with a smear.
z + e, a. “ze”, “za”, “zo”. The z is the letter most often written without a loop in modern hands. If your model uses the loop, make it small. If it does not, the join is the same, so mixed styles in a family word list look the same.
q + u. “qu” is almost the only pair you will ever write with q. The forward loop of the q lands to the right of the stem at the baseline, so the u starts there without a backward swing. Keep the q’s tail straight, then turn right.
p + vowels. “pa”, “pe”, “po”, “pi”, “pu”. Because the p retraces the stem, there is little loop to manage. Close the bowl at the stem, then exit with an undercurve from the baseline.
f + letters. “fa”, “fe”, “fi”, “fo”, “fu”. The f has a tall loop above and a lower loop below, and both cross the stem. The lower loop swings to the right and closes on the baseline, which is why f can sit in front of an ascender without clashing.
Words that put it together
- Page, change, rough: g with e and a baseline join in sequence.
- Yellow, enjoy, happy: y and p in the middle of words.
- Jazz, zebra, quiz: z at the start and end, q and u.
- Giraffe, flying, graph: descender after descender; look for loops that do not touch.
- Typography: y, p and g in a row, a good test of consistent tail length.
What goes wrong and why
- Tails that tangle with the line below. Too long. Aim for about the same length as the main body of the letter.
- Loops that are too fat. The loop should be narrow, about the width of the stem plus a hair.
- Wrong direction. Making q’s loop to the left (like g) or g’s loop to the right. The letters become confusable.
- Exits that start below the baseline. The next letter ends up a line low; look for the crossing point again.
- Lifting the pen after the tail. The loop is part of the same stroke. If you lift, the join will have a gap.
A practice routine
Rule four lines on the page and leave one empty line between them so the tails have room. Write a row of g, then y, then j, then z, five of each, tracing the loop and checking each crossing. Then write “ga ge gi”, “ya ye yo”, “ja ju”, “ze za” and finish with a sentence such as “Lazy foxes jump quickly past green pigs.” That sentence contains all seven descenders.
When that feels smooth, go back to the baseline joins for the connectors after the crossing, or to the cursive joins overview to see how this fits with the other types.
Frequently asked questions
How do you connect letters after a g, y or j in cursive?
Why do my descender loops collide with the line below?
Do p and q join in cursive?
What is the difference between the loops of g, j and y and the loop of f?
Can I skip the loop in cursive descenders?
Keep going
- Cursive JoinsCursive joins are the short connecting strokes that link one letter to the next, so a word is written in one movement. Learn the four join types, the bridge-stroke letters o, v, w and b, and the common errors, and your words will flow.
- Cursive Alphabet: Letters A to ZHow to write every capital and lowercase letter in cursive, with printable practice sheets.
- Words in CursiveCursive words are where cursive joins get tested, because the connections between letters only show up in whole words. Each word page shows a word in school cursive with notes on its joins, its tricky pairs and a printable practice sheet.
- How to Write in Cursive: Step by Step for BeginnersHow to write in cursive: hold the pen loosely, learn the four basic strokes, then lowercase letter families, joins and capitals. A four-week plan of 15 minutes a day, with left-handed adjustments, tips for adults and children, and fixes for common mistakes.
- Oh Joins (After o, v, w and b)Four letters leave from the top of the line, not the bottom. Learn the bridge stroke and the pairs o+r, o+s, o+t, w+e and b+l stop being awkward.
- Baseline JoinsMost cursive joins start on the baseline. Master the undercurve and the overcurve and about two thirds of the alphabet connects without a second thought.